Write Anything Here – The Last Chapter



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50 Responses to “Write Anything Here – The Last Chapter”

  1. PhantomGuitarist says:

    Not exactly as inspiring as ‘Let’s Start A Revolution’ but guess it’ll have to do….

    Wonder who else will join this particular slice of interweb wilderness?

  2. mat catastrophe says:

    And now I can’t remember what I wanted to say. Does Mertz come in a Jumbo Budget Size?

  3. vincent cannata says:

    O.K. I’ll still write stuff here.
    It’s been a long, hard year and a half for me.

    I assume we’ll talk about the “over the edge”‘s , witch I still listen to .

    However, in a few weeks, I’ll be self-publishing my book. I’ll keep all of you posted.

    Hope all of you are living well.

  4. PhantomGuitarist says:

    Hey, VC, welcome back mate.

  5. vincent cannata says:

    Here’s something:

    http://vimeo.com/44583147

    “I, pet goat II” by Heliofant

    Best description : “Pixar does Zeitgeist”

  6. vincent cannata says:

    I put forth this question:
    Which event is the LEAST likely to happen?

    - The second coming
    OR
    -A brand spanking new Negativland album

    ?

  7. PhantomGuitarist says:

    looks like you should have had a third option, vincent….
    - an answer to my question
    ?

    I’m still waiting for U2, er I mean IAIYHFM vol.2

  8. vincent cannata says:

    LOVE those “All In YOur Head” out-takes…..so funny.
    Maybe make THOSE a release!

  9. PhantomGuitarist says:

    I managed to get a vinyl copy of U2 for £7.99 including postage. Now all I have to do is buy myself a turntable to play it on, along with my ultra rare Ivor Cutler records and my Machine Head picture disc….

  10. pahool says:

    How about a nice dense mp3 disk release of the vast archives of the Weatherman’s raw family tapes recordings? He’s got quite a few hours on his blogs, and I’m sure he’s sitting on quite a few more. Given the popularity of the Willsaphone Stupid Show. I think it’d be a hit. Even a plainwrap computer-burned cd-rom would probably sell quite a few copies.

    The Piddle Diddle Disneyland show has been one of my favorites for years. That, and the Radio Journal of Ride Theory shows with Dan Howland. On the Piddle Diddle show, it’s mentioned several times that it’s a five-hour show. Yet the show ends at three hours. It seems that there’s a big chunk missing at the very end, just before the outro. Is there missing footage? I would pay top dollar for it. TOP DOLLAR I tell you!

  11. Negativland says:

    We’ve been trying to get the Weatherman to agree to such a thing for quite some time now! I’ll keep working on him, and your comment certainly helps.

    As to the Disneyland shows, all of our available OTE shows are slowly being digitized and made into mp3s. I just did the Journal of Ride Theory ones. SO this material, too, is in the offing. But as we don’t exactly have lots of time or resources, these things must go SLOWLY… keep watching… things will happen eventually.

  12. PhantomGuitarist says:

    I’d like to second the request for more Weatherman family tapes. One of my favourite Negativland CD’s is the Willsaphone Stupid Show, it’s just so strangely interesting to listen to fairly mundane family recordings. I know this will be rather annoying, but I’d also like to request an update on It’s All In Your Head FM Vol 2.0 seems like it’s loooong overdue.

  13. AnonAndOn says:

    Before I knew what Over the Edge was, I had stumbled across mp3s labelled as being Negativland that were a very lengthy homage to David Lynch, soundscapes of music used in his works, and extensive dialog of Twin Peaks, Dune, etc. I seem to remember there being what I have come to learn is Receptacle Programming calls interspersed among the other audio, but suffered a hard drive loss that has left me without the files. I have become an avid collector of OtE shows since then, but cannot seem to find that particular show, if it was in fact OtE. Any ideas of what/when it was? I am aware of the Lynch content on the 6/17/2005 “All Art Radio” episode, but this was wall to wall Lynch content, not so much commentary on it.

  14. Izzy Isn't says:

    Izzy here, just to inform you that we will soon be eliminating WAH from our Negativland website. No one else but me thinks it’s worth keeping up. Go to Negativland on Facebook for similar opportunities…
    By the way, THANKS!

  15. Izzy Isn't says:

    Oh, and re:13, I have no memory of the Lynch show you describe, but vaguely remember doing Twin Peaks material throughout the period it was on. I’d have to have the date of the show to ever find it. Come on, so what? It’s all meant to be lost and superceded, just like this.

  16. PhantomGuitarist says:

    As if to try to prove the point, here’s a post to mourn the demise of WAH, almost a month after the announcement that it is to die from lack of attention….

  17. Jmu says:

    Wah wah wah I would miss Write Anything Here. I too have succumbed to the objectionable addiction to OTE. I discovered negativland back in ’81 when my friend running Bombshelter Records in Seattle gave me a big 10-8 place, saying ‘you will love this, nobody else will have any appreciation. Been a fan since.
    How can I find more of the 10-80 G’s?

  18. Izzy Isn't says:

    This is how Negativland works: The guys all say that WAH is no good, only about 4 people are writing anything there, it’s a social media failure, and so let’s get rid of it. I say no, no, no, it WILL work! It’s the essence of public access and fan participation! I lost the argument, majority ruling. Then I wait for it to disappear. But it doesn’t. It still doesn’t. And it still doesn’t. That’s how Negativland works. I sum it up as a “place” where losing wins.
    (However, my joy is also disappointed by the ongoing lack of general creativity evident here… Anything means ANYTHING!

  19. PhantomGuitarist says:

    The world sits in thrall to Facebook, and all over the internet forums and guestbooks lie forgotten and unused, like autobiographies of stars who were less famous than the publishers imagined when they signed the advance cheques. A small band of loyal fans and stubborn little fuckers populate these forgotten havens in the hope that a member of their favourite band will at some point reply to some comment left there. Failure is imminent and indeed inevitable at some point to every undertaking ever undertook. To fail to fail is the ultimate in successful failure. A ramble on a disused internet forum is read by very few people, understood by even less and who the hell cares? It’s all just words on screens filling the internet with babble babble babble. Babble on to Babylon. So by all means, keep this here forever, a sad graveyard for 4 or 5 flop top fans to visit once in a blue moon to check to see if someone has replied to their inane comment about blue moons, cheese and flying pigs. Or delete the whole thing 3 seconds after this post, making the futility of it all rather redundant.

  20. joy luk-klub says:

    is anyone here good at askii art? if so why not try and recreate your favorite album cover or do a poortriate of your favorite negativland member? i’ll give it my best go, who’s this:

    8==D

  21. Mike Me says:

    I need IT’S ALL IN YOUR HEAD VOL. 2 or I will melt into a puddle of turquoise goo!

  22. PhantomGuitarist says:

    Still here.

  23. Frank Joyce says:

    That’s right, I’m using my real name. The reason for that will be, or is, depending on when you are reading this, a recently to come OTE program devoted to using my real name for the first time in this ol’ breadcaster’s whole old radio career.

  24. modern tupperware says:

    Why don’t you gentlemen have a Pepsi?

  25. J. D. Mack says:

    Izzy (Don, Frank), I’ve always been curious if you are involved with any of your local atheist organizations, such as Center for Inquiry.

  26. mat catastrophe says:

    The O.T.E. page at Wikipedia desperately needs updating.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over_the_Edge_%28radio%29

    That is all.

  27. Izzy says:

    Mr. Mack.
    No, I’m not involved in anything at all except groceries, laundry, and Over The Edge. Otherwise, I only like people at a distance and am quite happy with only this to read. Atheism is only common sense and does not require any organization to be believable and neither do I.

  28. Rich in Washington says:

    I’ve always had this (perhaps cynical) notion that any gathering of humans will always get caught in a group delusionary thought pattern however rational they try to be. Maybe we’re hardwired for oblivion. Maybe the guy under a bridge overpass yelling at passing cars is the only real free thinking person after all.
    By the way, does this mean that Izzy isn’t anymore, or is he?
    Can’t he, by default become Wozzie Wasn’t?

  29. djfancylad says:

    Recently I discovered a website that had an archive of a handful of OTE shows…most of them from the mid 90′s. Another UFO, Willsaphone, Mom and Dad and quite a few others. They were 192kbps files. The site has taken them down. Wondered if you knew anything about it.

  30. Tim says:

    We recently contacted archive.org about hosting ALL of the OTEs on their site. They were enthusiastic about it! I cannot give specific dates, but we are in the process of digitizing the entire Don Joyce Cassette Collection of OTE airchecks with the aim of having them online for you as soon as possible. I hope this addresses your concern!

    And these will be offered in a number of formats, as the Archive tends to do.

  31. phantomguitarist says:

    Great News, Everyone!!!

  32. d-man says:

    Yay!!! I know it’s unlikely, but I had a tape of a 1983 (maybe 1984) episode I recorded when I first discovered OTE, which not only introduced me to Negativland and “receptacle programming” but also Vangelis, Peter Gabriel and Brian Eno music – it was a magical 45-minute tape…..I listened to it a lot and even re-ran bits of it on my own radio show on a 10-watt station, mixing it with other things – then some rap DJ who hated me taped over it – I don’t know if much from Don’s archives exist from that year, but it would make my day to find that episode again *sigh*….can’t wait for the archive.org collection!

  33. Tim says:

    The archives are kind of spotty from the early years. If you or anyone else reading this has OTE airchecks I’d be glad to know about them. It would be great to add them to the archives as well. We’ll never have a complete record of everything that went Over the Air, but it would be nice to try.

  34. J. D. Mack says:

    Tim, how should people contact you?

  35. pahool says:

    Great news! I’m sending in a donation now to help with the digitization project. Crack the whip and get the Weatherman to provide the digital versions of his family tapes as well.

    DJFancyLad, are you referring to the old SerpentX archive that went offline a couple years ago, or something else?

  36. djfancylad says:

    Something else…it’s an archive of 81 OTE shows. The bulk of them are from the 90′s, but there are a handful of older ones from ’85, ’86 and ’88.

  37. phantomguitarist says:

    There are quite a few shows on beemp3.com though I suspect these will be readily available elsewhere. I have all the stuff that was on the Serpent X archive and a few others from here and there. Not many pre 90′s stuff, but could dig around and make a point of being anal and listing everything I have. Some details may be sketchy, like exact date or name of show etc, but will provide what I can over the next few days.

  38. phantomguitarist says:

    Actually, digging around, they all seem to be here
    http://db8.ca/radioarchive/kpfa/
    easier to grab from there than the shenanigans at beemp3.com
    Not sure if any of those are rare, but if they are I’m glad I could be of a small amount of help.

  39. phantomguitarist says:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgOsJBOqOtLzdDFJWlR1S29RV2VNZy0yWWc4Q1F6cFE&usp=drive_web#gid=0

    First 50 CD’s full of MP3′s up there, 36 more to go, plus a DVD full and various others that are on my laptop yet to be burned (most of these are recent, but I think a lot of Moonrock Footnotes are on there too).

  40. Cultural reviewer and social critic Crosley Bendix says:

    I’ve been listening to an advance copy of Negativland’s upcoming studio length album. Their studio is almost 54 feet long so storage may be a problem – Ha, ha, ha, just kidding – it’s more like a large closet with sound poof walls completely covered with over 5 miles of quarter inch analog recording tape.
    Anyway, the new release is called “Tour Negativland,” and I must say, this is going to cause a stir in your bowl of buyable music. Being stoned most of the time, Negativland’s high concept here is this: having been accused of “going pop” for over 20 years now, the 4 Flop Mops have decided to increase awareness of their hardly done work in the fine arts community, not with a hasty concoction of “difficult listening” so common in art music, but with a marketing concept guaranteed to frustrate and perplex, just like real art does.

    The plan is to release a whole variety of live, Negativland gigs performed over the last 20 years at various venues around the world. There will be at least 30 different shows, each show comprising a single CD, but they ALL will be individually released with the same cover which will not reveal which show is inside.
    This “Tour Negativland” project will be just like a real tour – you attend the local show near you but miss all the other shows on the tour. You will not know which live show you are buying, and buying random hundreds of this same, unrevealing cover would be the only way to try to get them all – the whole “tour.” Finally, buying more than you need to get what you want has moved underground!
    And in a final stroke of contemporary defiance in this twilight age of audio packaging, the band has declared that this release will never appear as a download at all. Brilliant!
    When asked for a comment for my upcoming review in Audio Art Times, one member stated, “We don’t care anymore.”
    As soon as the lawsuit from the Packaging Council Of America is settled, look for it in a rack near you.
    And by the way, those strips of analog tape covering Negativland’s studio walls are not just for show. The Weatherman has invented a “wall player,” (a tape head on rollers, looks like a computer mouse with a little speaker in it) which you can roll up and down the walls to hear discarded, vintage Negativland pieces all over them. Too bad no visitors are allowed.

  41. pahool says:

    The obsessive completist in me just shriveled up and died.

  42. stAllio! says:

    does anyone know where/how to find release dates of old Negativland releases? A Big 10-8 Place turns 30 this year, and Free turns 20… but when?

  43. stAllio! says:

    According to cduniverse, Negativland’s “Free” was released exactly 20 years ago on this date — April 13, 1993.

    Freedom’s waiting!

  44. phantomguitarist says:

    Looking forward to the new project, but hoping this doesn’t mean that IAIYH Vol 2 is no more.

  45. Izzy Isn't says:

    - BRAND NEW WORD ALERT -
    I have just invented a completely new word and am here to introduce this band to it, but in a larger sense, also propose that it be universally incorporated into human recording discourse everywhere.

    WORD NEEDED: Since the invention of digital recording, there has been no quick, easy, and convenient word for a digitally recorded file. Analog recording had the word “tape” to refer to any recording of anything. “I’ve got a tape of that.”
    Digital recording has no such convenient slang to speed one’s sentence along. Somehow, the term “file” does not work. “I’ve got a file of that.” No one is saying that. Too technical or something.
    A more comfortable word is needed.

    My brand new word for a digital recording is:

    DICORD

    DI for digital, CORD for record. DICORD.
    “I’ve got a dicord of that.”
    Pronounce it any way you want, but I think it should be with a long “I” for ease of speak.

    I hereby offer this brand new word of my own invention to the whole world, free and clear, no rights reserved. (Try it, you’ll like it!)

    – OPTION 2 –

    If all else fails, you might prefer “DI-FI” for DIgital FIle, but I think that’s corny.
    “I’ve got a di-fi of that…” Too Blahmatic.

  46. J. D. Mack says:

    Hmm. Interesting line of thought. I have been trying to come up with a word for making a video recording on a camera that uses SD cards instead of tape. I can’t say that I’m videotaping something. “Video Recording” seems too cumbersome. Maybe “Divicord” could cover this situation.

  47. Charles Swenson says:

    Of course, when the digital recording is on a compact disc, the word would be “disc-cord”, or with the superfluous hyphen and c removed, it would be “discord.” And lord knows the “record” companies have created enough “discord” in the music industry…

    By the way, I never listen to OTE live. I do, however, always look forward to the next “broadcast” which I listen to downloaded and by myself. Does this qualify for another word in and of itself?

    Is a radio program that is listened to by an individual in podcast form “narrowcast”?

    Neologisms are interesting as modalities for spreading cultural memes, just as the neologism “flying saucer” created in 1947 (by reporters, those crafty molders of cultural responses, not Kenneth Arnold)still finds resonance and shapes the UFO phenomena even today.

  48. r33 says:

    open mics everyday allways carpool
    609 495 5775

  49. r33 says:

    we need serious disipln with our lyrics

    counting sylabls helps. and plosive consanants

    too many lyrics are insipid.
    manhatten is sot good enough subways are too expensive !

    hope i get insulted.WE NEED scholersips for open mixe! call your town board of education busness hours . im from ”new curzie” plainsboro, where there are not really dedicated songwriters

  50. r33 says:

    new jersey is taudry, period!

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